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Incognito

Incognito — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Territorial, but it’s still rooted in religion..

A few paragraphs from Hamas’ Charter:

”Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”

”The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. ”

”There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

Daniel Chakraborty

Daniel Chakraborty — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

And this is why I’m in favor of Israel going to war... that’s the only way that this will end...

Although, I don’t think that the non-militant Muslims really want Israel’s downfall...

If they do, it doesn’t matter because Israel will do what it has to get done to rid itself of this irritation.

Well, it has to go to WAR for LASTING PEACE... How ironic?

Arjun

Arjun — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Daniel , excuse me for my unawareness, but I would love to have some facts about the casualties you are talking in the first para.

I know you have used the word countless, but still I would be grateful if you can give me some tentative figure.. like more than 1000,more than 100 , more than 50 , more than 10 , or .. something.. anything ..

I would be grateful

Daniel Chakraborty

Daniel Chakraborty — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

C’mon Arjun... this is like asking me to tell you how many stars there are in the sky above. The point I’m trying to make is that Israel has been taunted and messed around with ever since its Independence since 1948 by the Arab World. For God knows what reasons they’re not recognized as a State till this very day... and trust me, the numbers in deaths are countless on both sides. But why I’m with Israel is because they’re not the ones with an agenda to take anyone out... their agenda is self-preservation. If I had the accurate numbers of the death toll since 1948, I would have definitely written them here... without a doubt!

Arjun

Arjun — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Israel is not recognized as a state ! By whom ? And the number i wanted to
know was not because I don’t believe in the human life, but because people
try to justify Israel’s attack because of casualties. As far as i know the
latest attacks are going on because Hamas has been firing rockets .. yes ..
and as far as i know it has officially killed only one ..
In retallition the peace loving Israel has attacked and killed till
yesterday some 869 ” terrorists” including unborn baby to 87 year old
terrorist. ’
Anyway I hope no one succeeds in telling Israel ”moral principles” as its PM
told the world.. And whatever we may say killings will happen.. so i hope
whatever you are saying is right.. At least than i can justify myself that a
day old baby death is justified.

Daniel Chakraborty

Daniel Chakraborty — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

It’s feedback well taken and I’ll remember to put numbers, stats in blogs from here on when it comes to generalization based topics such as this. I guess it’s important for some people to know these things. :) Thanks buddy.

Daniel Chakraborty

Daniel Chakraborty — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Ok. Let’s take a chill pill here. Haha. I understand that these are events that we can do without and are inhumane... but it is war... and the best part is that neither of us know the entire truth. For which both sides have to be held responsible. In any case, the Hamas are doing a good job of hiding amongst the children and women. Some people call it urban warfare. And do you think the Israelis care if another 1000 people die?

They don’t. They’ve lived in fear of being attacked for so long now and that is just as bad as being attacked. And I’m not justifying the fact that they don’t either.

My thoughts here are: Let them fight it out. I guess that’s what they BOTH want. [Read Incognito’s comment above] Neither side is willing to listen to the International community and the women and children are dying because of this. It sucks but that’s how it goes.

Arjun

Arjun — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Daniel if you think that both sides are wrong by not listening to International

community then I am with you .

But , correct me if I am wrong, you yourself said in the 2 para: ” And now the UN council is proposing a ceasefire. Are you kidding me?”

I agree that both should stop , but i beg to disagree with your point in the article.

Maybe I have got it wrong.

Daniel Chakraborty

Daniel Chakraborty — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

If you disagree, that’s really how you look at things. No problem. I understand that everyone has a value system by which they make their judgments. I’m not infringing on your rights to state your opinion, so kindly make an effort to return the favor.

Where was the peacekeeping process when the Hamas were shooting their homemade rockets into Israel? It was the 10th day in the war when the UN finally woke up. That’s a joke. These people are highly strung and they won’t tolerate it anymore. The peacekeeping process will only buy time for a future confrontation like the last one as it’s crossed a point of insanity NOW. And neither side will back out unless there is a final conclusion by force. The Hamas wants the destruction of Israel and that is totally unacceptable. [Read Incognito’s comment above] And they’ve supported that statement, by shooting rockets into Israel. They have absolutely no right to do that regardless of whether only one or two people died or were injured. Period!

If that’s fine with you, then you’re right, buddy. Have fun! :)

Rose Ng'ang'a

Rose Ng'ang'a — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Hi Daniel.

”At the end of it all, Israel will complete what it began a couple of days ago, till it achieves its objectives as clearly stated by its diplomats.”

Sure as it is we have o sit back and watch but how many innocent people/kids will die before this end comes.

Daniel Chakraborty

Daniel Chakraborty — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Well, war sucks but this is what happens when two sides can’t co-exist and have to fight till the end. Israel has no other solution to the problem other than going in and getting rid of these people... or it puts Israeli lives at stake... sure, it’s crazy that young children and women die with all the air strikes... but if the Hamas really cared about their own women and children they would call a lasting truce... and they don’t want that either... do they? Both the Israelis and the Hamas should be blamed for it... not just Israel!

I don’t like this myself but sometimes people choose to learn it the hard way! Much like the Mumbai attacks was such a hard pill to swallow. These are the harsh times we live in.